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    Commission in the speech therapy group. · · Speech therapy commission in det. the garden

    19.03.2011 13:43

    I climb like a speech therapist :) There are 2 types of commissions: 1) the one that is in your garden (this is a formality, in fact only the speech therapist is watching and the psychologist and the head are still signed, that's all), the commission passes the children without notice to the parents. 2) PMPK at a speech therapy garden, they go there after passing a certain number of specialists and look at the child at the mother.

    I can say that with a banal violation of sound pronunciation, the speech therapy group will not be determined, it means that the child is much more serious, just the mothers do not understand this and think that it is just a violation of sound pronunciation, and the specialist hears by speech, which, for example, the phonematic hearing is broken , and this is a pledge of dysgraphia and dyslexia at school. Also, the violation of sound pronunciation can be as a result of the presence of dysarthria in the child, and this is already serious. I will not tell what it is, and I write so much.

    Logogroup is a very cool thing! Children are fully prepared for school, they already know how to read, write in block letters whole sentences and do sound-letter analysis, etc., for school.

    Mom can refuse to transfer a child to a logosad or group, but there are such violations, and mothers, as a rule, do not know when private work with a speech therapist is not enough and the child will not be ready for school.
    I have 2 such boys, who were sent to such a garden for 2 years (1 metro stop from us), they resisted as best they could, and as a result, one boy now goes to school for a diagnosis of OHP and this is not a terrible joke, the second one more year before school, I meet with my mother regularly and persuade to translate, so far to no avail. The fact is that there are diagnoses with which a speech therapist does not have the right to work at a regular logging station in a mass garden, but must be sent to a logging site if the mother has not translated the child, she is looking for a speech therapist for money and everything remains on her conscience.

    I can say that the author was lucky, I agree with droplets. The fact is that in the country there is a reduction in logogroups and log-points, our native education seeks to shift this service entirely to the parents' root, so think about it. Soon there will be a fight for these places, because they will be less and less.

    Katyushka  as for mentally retarded children and all other persons with disabilities: if I am not mistaken, some years ago laws began to act that equalize the rights of normal and disabled people and allow ... even encourage ... enrollment of any disabled people in mass institutions ... we, like, equate to the West, there they have it. As always, all these moments are not finalized and no one knows what to do with these children, but institutions for disabled people have some encouragement, because I am not a manager, I can’t tell you more about it. So no one will now expel children from schools and gardens of UO, unless mother translates herself.

    How to get to the speech therapy garden?

    Get back in line again?

      Get a simple referral from a speech therapist, or go through a special commission?

    There is an opinion that the speech therapy garden is a certain “stigma” in the personal file of the child. Is it really?

    First, let's see what is speech therapy group?

    Correctional groups are divided into speech (speech therapy) and groups of children with CRA (delayed psycho-speech development).

    In speech therapy groups, sounds are set that did not exist and correct incorrectly pronounced (correction of speech defects), enrich the vocabulary, develop phonemic perception, coherent speech, and learn correct grammatical design. In the senior and in the preparatory group, they are engaged in preparing for literacy.

    Both the speech therapist and the defectologist (in addition to educators who have the necessary qualifications) work in ZPR groups.

    Every year for different age is a multi-faceted work.

    There are kindergartens, where all groups of speech.
      There is - where only groups with CRA.
      There are gardens, where speech groups (speech therapy) + groups with CRA + ordinary groups = a combined garden.
      There is an ordinary garden, where there is a log post. Children will be credited to the log item ONLY WITH VIOLATED LIFE.

    But, in any case, the speech therapy group in our time is not a punishment, but rather a reward, because getting there has become more difficult, and the general underdevelopment of speech is easier to correct in the garden, where all the work is aimed at eliminating this problem.

    Perhaps, it is no secret for anyone that in speech therapy kindergartens the preparation of children, no offense will be said to anyone, sometimes much stronger than in mass kindergartens. Because kids from speech therapy kindergarten come to school with a much better vocabulary than children from a regular kindergarten. They know more, they have a wider vocabulary, many skills are better formed, starting with graphic skills, sound-letter analysis and ending with stories from pictures, general concepts are better formed. That is, children come from speech therapy gardens even more prepared.

    Some parents are very attracted to all this magnificence, and they dream of defining their children in a speech garden. Others are afraid of speech therapy kindergartens, believing that a child caught up in a poorly speaking peer environment will begin to speak even worse than before.

    This is a fallacy. A child with speech problems does not begin to speak worse due to the fact that he communicates with other children with similar disorders. Exceptions are only those cases when a child with violations of pronunciation is in a group of children who stutter. Indeed, there are cases when a child develops an imitation stutter. But experts usually avoid such mistakes.

    So, for one reason or another, you think that your child necessarily needs a specialized speech therapy garden. What you need to do to get to the speech therapy garden?

    Children who are mostly 4-5 years of age are admitted to a speech therapy kindergarten, since for them correction of speech disorders is especially important for successful preparation for school. From the age of 3 you can get into the group for children with delayed psycho-speech development (CRA).

    It will be very good if you, dear parents, have already visited several educational institutions. You will have a talk with the manager / director about the availability of places, perhaps, visit an advisory center on the basis of the institution, where you will get acquainted with the specialists.

    The recruitment of preschool institutions for children with speech disorders is conducted by the district Psycho-Medical-Pedagogical Commission. Addresses and phone numbers of district PMPK in Moscow can be found here.

    What specifically needs to be done:

    From October 1, 2010, the procedure for recruiting preschool educational institutions has changed. Now the order of enrollment in a preschool educational institution is established by order of the Moscow Department of Education dated August 31, 2010 No. 1310 “On approval of the procedure for recruiting state educational institutions implementing the basic general educational program of preschool education, the system of the Moscow Department of Education”.

    How to arrange a child in a speech therapy kindergarten

      Step 1. In order for a child to be sent to a kindergarten for children with disabilities, it is necessary that he be registered in the Unified Electronic Register of the Automated Information System “Completing preschool educational institutions”. Parents are given the opportunity to independently register their child in this Unified electronic registry on ec.mosedu.ru.

    You will be able to independently track the progress of the order of your child in the Electronic Journal of Future Students.

      Step 2. Go to the speech therapist in the district clinic.

    Speech therapist examines the child, gives guidance on the passage of PMPK (Psychological, Medical and Pedagogical Commission)

      Step 3. To collect several references for PMPK:

    From the ENT doctor,

    Oculist,

    Pediatrician

    Neuropathologist (for children under 3 years old),

    Psychiatrist.

      Step 4. Call and make an appointment.

      Step 5. On the appointed day, come to the examination with the child.

    What you need to take:

    Documents for the passage of PMPK

    Required documents for speech therapy garden:

    • Child's birth certificate;
    • Passport of the parent or person replacing it (for temporarily living in Moscow and certificate of registration);
    • Four medical reports:
        - a child psychiatrist from the IPA at the child’s place of residence (for children up to 3 years old - a neuropathologist of the district children's clinic),
        - speech therapist district children's clinic,
        - otolaryngologist of the district children's clinic,
        - Oculist district child clinic.

    If a child has previously attended kindergarten, it is necessary to additionally provide a psychological and pedagogical characteristic from this kindergarten.

    If the child has previously passed a commission in another city or district PMPK, it is necessary to additionally provide the psychological, medical and pedagogical conclusion of this commission.

    The following specialists will look at your child:

    Speech therapist,

    Psychologist,

    Sometimes a neuropsychiatrist.

    The commission’s task is to determine whether the child is really lagging behind his peers in speech development or whether the parents are simply reinsured. Or maybe they certainly want to enroll the baby in a speech therapy group, despite the excellent speech and development of age? It happens!

    If the commission decides that the child has problems, then the question arises: to which particular speech therapy garden should the child be sent? After all, the diagnoses are different, depending on them and recruited a group of children of a certain age.

    For example, if a 4-year-old kid has a diagnosis of “general underdevelopment of speech (ONR) level 1-2”, then the senior speech therapist looks at which kindergarten this year recruits 4-year-old children with such a diagnosis.

    And if a 6-year-old child has problems with sound pronunciation (hissing, whistling are distorted, the baby does not pronounce “p” and “l”), then such a child will be sent to another group - preparatory, where the program is different and the requirements for learning .

    For stuttering kids, there are generally separate gardens with their own program and a set of specialists (for example, art therapy classes are held there).

    On the commission of the child is determined in one of the following groups:

    Stuttering;

    General speech underdevelopment (children are sent here with delayed speech development or gross lexical and grammatical speech disorders);

    Phonetic and phonemic speech disorders (to put it simply, violations of pronunciation are cases when a child makes 10 to 12 sounds incorrectly);

    Violations of the pronunciation of individual sounds (2 - 3 sounds).

    So, your child will see and issue a certificate of passage PMPK.

    Only after the commission, parents can breathe easy: on September 1, the baby will definitely go to kindergarten.

    In addition to the gardens, which are completely dedicated to the needs of speech therapy, speech therapy points in ordinary gardens are widespread. How to get to the log post, you can read.

    Children's speech therapy gardens or gardens with speech therapy groups in districts of Moscow are listed here:

    Hello everyone, today I will tell you about our classes with a speech therapist in kindergarten, as well as a little about the speech therapy commission.


    Before describing our history, I’ll tell you about the types of assistance that children with speech problems can have.

    If you observe any problems with the development of speech in your child, you need to pass a commission and depending on its results, your child can be identified in:

    • speech center or a defpunkt - classes in the garden with a speech therapist, that is, the child goes to a regular group in the kindergarten plus additionally deals with a defectologist. This corrects minor flaws.
    • a speech therapy group or a log group is a special group in kindergarten, in which there are far fewer children than in normal groups (12 vs. 25). In such groups, all children with speech disorders. A logogroup can be in a garden that a child is already attending, or if there are no such groups / places in your garden, you will have to transfer the child to another garden.
    • speech therapy garden, where there are different speech therapy groups depending on speech disorders, which should be corrected.

    It should be noted that the parent can refuse a speech therapy garden. Just worth it?

    As we had

    Last year (in April) we passed a speech therapy commission in our kindergarten and, by a good coincidence, in September 2015, we began to practice with a speech therapist.

    They wanted to identify Dominica in the speech therapy garden, they say, not only do not pronounce the letters, but they do not always correctly pronounce the end of words, etc. I refused, said that we would deal with the speech pathologist in our kindergarten, and we would additionally visit the speech therapist for a fee. (I wrote the reason for the refusal below.)

    Of course, I was told that it’s not a fact that there will be enough places in the garden, since we will be in the middle group, and, first of all, children for a speech center to a speech therapist will be recruited from senior groups. But I took the risk and did not lose. In a sense, we were lucky, because one more excellent speech therapist-defectologist, with whom we started, got a job in our garden.

    For a whole year, Dominic worked with a speech therapist in the garden. 2 times a week, classes were held in subgroups, 2 times - individual. We also visited a speech therapist in addition. Classes were held individually 2 times a week for a fee.

    During this year, Dominic learned to pronounce all the letters except “p.” What I am very pleased! Of course, he does not always use these sounds in words, sometimes he says them gently. But he learned to pronounce them, and now he gradually introduces them into our vocabulary with our help.


    Speech therapy commission

    And on Monday, April 25, a commission came to the kindergarten to track the progress of the children, to determine who else needs classes next year, and who can be removed from the log post. In the certificate, we wrote a conclusion: general speech underdevelopment (3 st), erased dysarthria. We are still at default point, well, I already knew that.

    True, I do not believe in these commissions at all. After all, they spend time on one child 5-10 minutes. And in order to really check all the components of speech - sounds, grammar, connected speech, syllable structure, vocabulary, it takes several days of individual communication with the child.

    With regards to children who have already visited a speech therapist, easier. Since the speech therapist knows what results the child has achieved, as well as what else it is worth catching up, what moments to pay attention to. And if this is the initial inspection? How can you examine a child in 10 minutes and even make a diagnosis?

    My advice to parents whose children already go to the garden and who should have a speech therapy commission in the kindergarten. Be sure to go with your child!

    Such commissions go through the gardens in spring and concern children who attend kindergarten and who are 4 years old. According to the results of the commission, you may be offered to transfer the child to a speech therapy garden, a speech therapy group or put on a speech center.

    I have nothing against a speech therapy garden; I myself went to this last year before school, but it all depends on many factors. One of which is not only the development of speech, but also the overall development of the child.

    For example, we were offered to go to the speech therapy group at the very first commission, but this is not the case in our garden. It was necessary to transfer the child to another garden. Again adaptation, new team. We really like our garden, our group and our caregiver. Therefore, we decided to hire a paid speech therapist.

    But it should also be noted that before this commission I went for a consultation to a speech therapist in a clinic where Dominic talked with a specialist for 20 minutes. Then I started asking her what he needed to pull up, whether he needed a loggroup or enough defp points. The specialist was excellent and told me in detail that yes how. I answered all my questions. Therefore, I was confident in my refusal to transfer the child to another garden.

    But again, for many kids, such a group would be a great solution. In such groups, children are trained daily, they will have better training. I know from personal experience.

    So, if your child is 5 years old, what should you pay attention to?


    1. the use of prepositions to pay special attention to complex prepositions, such as from under, from, between, with, above, under.
    2. what are the names of cubs of animals, for example, in a she-wolf - a wolf cub, and in a cow - a calf.
    3. the formation of adjectives from nouns, for example, a matryoshka from wood (which one?) is wooden.
    4. the formation of possessive adjectives, for example, a fox hole (whose hole?) - a fox or a lion's mane (whose mane?) - a lion.
    5. the selection of antonyms or the game "say the opposite", for example, day - night, low - high.
    6. the formation of plural nouns in the parental case, for example, a chair (many things?) - chairs or a tree (many things?) - trees.
    7. coordination of nouns with numerals (up to 5), for example, 1 chair, 2 chairs, 3 chairs, 4 chairs, 5 chairs.
    8. development of the syllabic structure of the word, that is, pronouncing the phrase / sentence without rearranging / skipping syllables or sounds, clearly pronouncing all sounds. For example, a cyclist rides a bicycle.
    9. c-Ш's sayings, for example, Sasha hurries over pine cones. Scratchwords WF, for example, rusted iron lock. Tongues on the LR, for example, Lara played the piano.

    It is also necessary to learn a small poem with the child (6-8 lines).

    For Dominic, point 4 was the most difficult, when he asked “whose mane?” He answered: “Leo!” - and, in principle, he was right. Otherwise, everything was fine.

    On this positive note, let me say goodbye. Finally, I will ask you a few questions. Did your children have a speech therapy commission? Do I need a loggroup or defpunkt?

    If you have any questions for me, write in the comments to the article, I will answer everyone, I will help, I can. See you!